Joomla, Wordpress and Drupal
Hagen Graf (writes on all three)
What site is what platform? Hard to tell. Katy Perry, Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Schweizer Illustrierte, etc.
"Have to show us the source!" So does it matter?
Drupal has no showcasing, unlike J and W.
Try to download Drupal 7... Hard to find.
Huge number of modules
Google trends... all except W going down gently, W pretty flatlined.
All three: installation to a content type with an image.
Joomla - smooth, will even create db. Slight glitch removing installation directory. Sample data.
Wordpress - briefly unfriendly. Won't create db for you. If you do create it, what now? When you're done sample blogpost and page.
Drupal - don't know what an install profile is, so whatever. I can add several databases? No db - big kaboom. But no obvious explanation. When you're done no sample content but D7 gives you routes to add content.
SAAS for W and D, not J
Create content
Joomla - a lot of fields. Permissions on article - might not scale? Can't put it on a menu here. If you're a beginner, menu manager will put you off. Print/send - you can't turn off. Media directory, a bit like iMCE.
WP media gallery is right there.
D7 complicated to set up a field for images. Nicely configurable but hard to find. Upload a big image. Wow, that's a big image. How do I change its display? Display fields on the content type, well, people don't always find that.
What if the client wants the image floated? Well, you can't do that without editing the templates, which you can't do in the browser.
D7 possible to install modules through the interface, even via URL. But e.g. WYSIWYG module - how do you get the third party editor? Answer: you can't. WP plugins very nice e.g. upgrade akismet, find new plugins. Joomla has confusion of modules, plugins and components, and is just not there. Joomla can't add comments...?
"How can we improve Drupal to get this audience?"
Agencies don't always know how to incrementally improve a site. They change incrementally but they're not improving it. Six months later it's a mess. We need a core like Wordpress. It just works.
Too many agencies and products and programming. If you come from the outside you think, wow, it's like Java!
"But if you extend"
Well, everything can be solved with ten modules and some tweaking and some code... But that's not audience-ready. Joomla templates are strongly MVC. Customizing is easier. But Joomla has no clear competitor for views. W has fields on a per-article basis, but you can combine that with a plugin. Field to field dependence in drupal is possible but hard.
Generally D7 UX is less fun than it looks. Lots of configuration but frustrating to find. Not media-ready out of the box. But when you can find it, configuration is better to use than it used to be. When you use some of the whizzy features they can fall apart. Does they get user tested by non-programmers?
