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Want to get content into Wordpress
"Dumb" copying and pasting seems to work OK
Appearing is pretty bad, but oo, I have lots of themes. Really quick to switch them, and it just works.
Installing a new theme - JUST WORKS. So painless
Awfully large header. Can we change that?
An editor. So we can!
My mom has got images of horses too. What can we do with that?
Hey, we can create a gallery. Let's do that.
Now we can add some images. Upload one. There's small boxes for a bunch of information. But we can add them.
Can I make a page for my gallery to show on?
let's look in plugins area.
[note that the plugin is already installed. Plugin discovery is still not simple.]
how about that link? No, that's not it.
[gets a bit lost]
maybe google knows. Hey, FAQs for NextGEN gallery. There it is.
That works. I have a gallery.
I have a site
When I log into a wp site, I have straight away links to doing stuff.
What happens when I want to add wysiwyg to Drupal? Wp is just there.
What if we have to set up wysiwyg? It's like twelve steps.
What if I want to set up tags?
What if I want to change how it looks? "Hire a themer." OK, how do I do that?
How do I add images? How do I get image cache? What's that?
Has anyone ever set up a calendar on Drupal?
How does my mom upgrade things on Drupal? "Use drush!" There's this place called modules, but apparently that's wrong.
What's a page? It's a content type. Maybe something with panels. Something your browser spits out. Maybe it's a view, or a category listing.
Posts? Depending on which bit of UI you used, you might get that word.
What are themes? Are they skins?
Are categories taxonomy?
We do things because that's the way we do it.
Developers like to build new stuff. They don't necessarily care when there's existing stuff.
Developers don't care about looks. They think their job is done when it sort of works.
Developers don't care about ux if they can use drush.
Drupal is sort of a blank slate. You can put blocks where you want them, but why would you?
Wordpress is a finished product.
All you have to do is satisfy market need. Wp is behind us, but they can move fast, and they're looking at us.
3.0? Their blogging engine turned into a content management engine.
They're catching up pretty quick. What happens when we're left in drupal-is-fun land, alone?
What do we need?
Distributions? Yes! All that time saved.
"so many distributions can be really confusing"
Wordpress has three. So we could say we do e-commerce.
Wordpress has direction. It makes good products, but it's more top-led
Does e community need to make distros or a better blank slate?
Both.
"officially supported"
What does that mean?
"not just supported by one company, but supported by core"
How does that happen in the module lifecycle? we need to come up with some kind of standard, or a way to get acceptance. How do we do this?
Drupalmodules.com - one guy has an attitude of "I can do this better on my own." big security risks. Big problem for drupal reputation. It's not right.
"we don't ship a product. We need to ship products."
Is it n ot too late to chase wp as a blog product?
"No."
One thing we don't have is a great team of salesmen. Wp has that. Whether we can take over their space, I doubt. But we have to figure out how to do the whole vertical.
"OpenAtrium - already done? And now we're feeding back into the community."
Yeah, but how do you know about OpenAtrium? Because you're already in the community.
There is no drupal.com
"as more companies start working on distros, we'll get a middle ground."
How quickly can we do this?
Developers get so excited about all these technologies that prototypes sometimes don't get finished.
